I am thinking of getting one of these. I would like to know what is your max overclock, at what voltage and your idle & load temperatures. Also how stable is it. Did you run Orthos and for how long? I am building a new computer soon and I would like it to be stable and able to run 24/7.
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E8400 @ 4127MHz with 1.42v on Air
Temps are around 48/55C idle/load
Orthos stable around 4hrs.
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im testing orthos on mine at 4005ghz right now. its 52c load, 1.272v
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8400 @ 4300 (9 x 478) at 1.45v vcore. idle temp 37c (seems high) but load temp is only 62c. this is almost 40c below the tmaxj for a wolfdale chip. q746a, pack date 1/10, from neweggs nj warehouse.
ultima 90 w/ tt 92mm smartfan. ran occt in cpu mode for 2 hours , and ran 3dmark 05 and 06 while occt was running. it hasnt hung or crashed since i got it a few days ago, and it has been on 24/7 since then. played crysis for 3 or 4 hours last night. my kid played tf2 for around 6 hours the day before. seems pretty stable to me, because thats about as hard as its going to be run.
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http://images.dr3vil.com//files3/84/e8400-1.jpge8400
VID: 1.1125v (stock)

OC'd currently testing: (I haven't had time to really test /tweak higher YET)
9x434 = 3906Ghz

vcore in BIOS: 1.3875v

vcore in windows: 1.272v (major vdrop, and nearly no vdroop)

load temp: 64-65C

idle temp: 45C - not really "idle", but just me surfing, music, about 10 minutes after Priming for a few hours.

room temp: 25C

Edit: Well the chip doesn't seem to want to do 4Ghz, at least not with the voltage that I feel safe giving it.
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Hey, what are you guys using/what version to test temps?

My box is outside, currently -3C outside.

At stock, 3ghz:

Coretemp .96.1 = 35C no matter what
Speedfan 4,33 = -2C idle, 7C load
Everest = doesn't show idle, 7C load

Is it actually running this cold? My old E4400 would run at 17C idle... I have a hard time believing the CPU is that close to ambient.

Going to post in OC/Cooling...
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In all of the posts I've read on multiple sites it seems that this chip just doesn't report temps correctly. I've just got a feeling that Intel is going to fix this, and that's what's keeping me from getting one right now. We'll see how that goes, great thread so far.
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VID 1.0375. TankGuys has some still left in stock with the pack date 1/4/08. I just got this today (on water, ambient room is 20.3C)

Thermistor under chip is reporting consistent temps with onboard software (about 10 lower than coretemp). This is in-line with the 6850 difference in coretemp and the thermistor. Coretemp might be a tad over in my experience. My chip is probably running between 47 and 54c from my experience with my setup. This chip is a few degrees cooler than my 6850 and takes a much lower vcore to reach oc's. This pretty nice. I couldn't get past 5 minutes orthos at 1.58 4ghz on the 6850.

vcore (load) = 1.414 actual (measured by DMM)
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i304/scwam/vid2.jpg
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Thanks everybody. Keep them coming. I will be on water when I build this computer so I should have no problem hitting over 4.0 with this CPU. Also let me know what motherboard and memory you are running if you do not already have it in your sig. Thanks again.
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VID 1.0375.

WOW. 1.0375v VID?! :eek:
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See, I don't know if you can trust the coretemp reading. For example, CPUZ say my VID is 1.088, which sounds about right, while coretemp says its 0.98.
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E8400 4.35GHz at 1.5V but as Intel say over 1.45V can cause rapid deterioration of the chip I reduced to 4.275GHz at 1.45V.

Supporting hardware
Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme cooler
120mm 68CFM 22dB fan
MX2 paste
Gigabyte GA-X38-DS4
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Batch Q745A553 Packed 12/27/07

I'm at 8.5 x 500 4.25 GHz and stable on a quick 30 min OCCT at 1.39v

I'll do a better stress test tonight when I leave it running overnight.

Rest of rig in sig.
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;1032008147']See, I don't know if you can trust the coretemp reading. For example, CPUZ say my VID is 1.088, which sounds about right, while coretemp says its 0.98.

cpuz doesnt give vid, just whatever your vcore is set at.


q746a, pack date 1/10, fro m newegg nj warehouse. vid 1.0375 .if its anything like a quad, low vid usually means a not very good overclocker, and that it will run hotter than a chip with high vid at a given vcore. but not enough chips out to know if 1.0375 is low or high.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2078/2233177473_82a5853f98_b.jpg
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My VID = 1.1125V, coretemp 0.96.1

Something worth knowing...
There have been a few reports of E8xx series chips deteriorating quite a lot after only a week of use.
The blame is being put on chips that are overclocked but it is happening to some that are not hugely overclocked and using voltages much lower than 1.45V.

Until this is resolved, I have clocked mine back to 4GHz at 1.35V to be safe(r).
I lost 0.5fps in Crysis lol.
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on a Gigabyte P35-DS3L bios F8a

VID: 1.1125
Currently at 4050mhz
450x9
1.312v BIOS, 1.264v CPUZ idle, 1.248v load

with ambient temp of 1C outside, Coretemp .96.1:
idle temp: 30C
load temp: 47C
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on a Gigabyte P35-DS3L bios F8a

VID: 1.1125
Currently at 4050mhz
450x9
1.312v BIOS, 1.264v CPUZ idle, 1.248v load

with ambient temp of 1C outside, Coretemp .96.1:
idle temp: 30C
load temp: 47C

Very nice, I'm on the same motherboard, bios, and VID:

4050mhz
450x9
1.35v BIOS, 1.31v CPUZ idle, 1.28v load

Temps are reading 45 idle/58 load in Speedfan, 50 idle/63 load in core temp with a Zerotherm Nirvana. Of course I'm at room temperature, not a 1C icebox.
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Whoa..An average overclock of 4Ghz...That is pretty damn amazing.. Now i'm begining to think if I should buy an E8400........
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Very nice, I'm on the same motherboard, bios, and VID:

4050mhz
450x9
1.35v BIOS, 1.31v CPUZ idle, 1.28v load

Temps are reading 45 idle/58 load in Speedfan, 50 idle/63 load in core temp with a Zerotherm Nirvana. Of course I'm at room temperature, not a 1C icebox.

Yeah I know, I'm a cheater... I am actually at 49C now, after running Orthos Small FFT for an hour and 5 minutes. I expect a few degrees drop when the weather cools down again.
What ram do you have? I'm using a 2x multi so I have a 1:1 FSB:RAM ratio, but I think I'll have to loosen up the timings to overclock it much more. Then again I'm also using a 4x1gb setup and I've read all over the place that motherboards don't really like having all 4 slots full.
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My VID = 1.1125V, coretemp 0.96.1

Something worth knowing...
There have been a few reports of E8xx series chips deteriorating quite a lot after only a week of use.
The blame is being put on chips that are overclocked but it is happening to some that are not hugely overclocked and using voltages much lower than 1.45V.

Until this is resolved, I have clocked mine back to 4GHz at 1.35V to be safe(r).
I lost 0.5fps in Crysis lol.

Have you got any linkage for those reports? I'm planning on getting one of the new c2d cpus and would like to avoid frying my CPU in a week lol
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What ram do you have? I'm using a 2x multi so I have a 1:1 FSB:RAM ratio, but I think I'll have to loosen up the timings to overclock it much more. Then again I'm also using a 4x1gb setup and I've read all over the place that motherboards don't really like having all 4 slots full.

I'm running Corsair XMS2 at a 2x multiplier. At DDR800 was at 4-4-4-12 timings, but had to add another .1v for DDR900 and drop down to 5-5-5-15. Anything lower and I had no stability. 2 Sticks of 1GB each.
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Anybody running on a Gigabyte P35-DS4? I've got mine at 4.0 with a nice low 1.25 volts, but I'm getting suspiciously high temp readings - 53/54 idle and 72/73 load with an Ultra-120. The heatsink is plenty cool to the touch, as is the air blowing through it, so I'm thinking those temps might be bogus. My VID is either 1.0625 (coretemp) or 1.175 (BIOS) so I'm not pushing too many volts through it - so I find it hard to believe that it idles at 50+C. I tried reseating the HSF and even lapped the processor (my Ultra-120 was already lapped) - no difference at all.

Anybody else getting high temps on a DS4?
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Anybody running on a Gigabyte P35-DS4? I've got mine at 4.0 with a nice low 1.25 volts, but I'm getting suspiciously high temp readings - 53/54 idle and 72/73 load with an Ultra-120. The heatsink is plenty cool to the touch, as is the air blowing through it, so I'm thinking those temps might be bogus. My VID is either 1.0625 (coretemp) or 1.175 (BIOS) so I'm not pushing too many volts through it - so I find it hard to believe that it idles at 50+C. I tried reseating the HSF and even lapped the processor (my Ultra-120 was already lapped) - no difference at all.

Anybody else getting high temps on a DS4?

I do. But its not the DS4 making the high temps. If you look through other 8400 threads, you will see some of the 8400 have problems with their diodes so it doesn't read out the correct temp..

My 8400 shifts maybe 1C on one core and doesn't change what so ever on the other when I put 400FSB off the bat. I had a 6750 before me 8400 and it ran at 17C on both cores IDLE and didn't hit 45C on load. Core temp says I'm hitting in the 60s on load. So know 100% the temps aren't right.

I reseated my TRUE 5 times.
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I do. But its not the DS4 making the high temps. If you look through other 8400 threads, you will see some of the 8400 have problems with their diodes so it doesn't read out the correct temp..

My 8400 shifts maybe 1C on one core and doesn't change what so ever on the other when I put 400FSB off the bat. I had a 6750 before me 8400 and it ran at 17C on both cores IDLE and didn't hit 45C on load. Core temp says I'm hitting in the 60s on load. So know 100% the temps aren't right.

I reseated my TRUE 5 times.

Yeah, I've been following those threads, and my previous IP35 Pro was all jacked up, but I was looking for some confirmation that others were showing high temps on the DS4 - my temps track okay, they don't freeze at a certain point or anything, they just seem about 15C too high.
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24/7 clock on my E8400 is 4.05Ghz (450x9) @ 1.33v using my MSI Neo2-FR mobo. Load temp of 49-50c via coretemp while running Orthos. 4.2Ghz is stable as well, but needs 1.425v to do it and full load temps jump up to 58-60c via coretemp when running Orthos.
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Have you got any linkage for those reports? I'm planning on getting one of the new c2d cpus and would like to avoid frying my CPU in a week lol

I knew this would bite me as I didnt take note of where I read about it.
I'm pretty sure it was www.xtremesystems.org but I cannot search their site as the picture with the authorisation code you need to type in never appears.

After searching with google and reading everything for about 2 hours, the following make reference to the problem:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=175584&page=2
Post 26 mentions it and post 47 a guy has experienced it

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2747129
A discussion on the topic.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=173999&page=24
post 591 and 592 reference 8 to 9 CPUs that are degrading
The last links to a Greek site about the problem but I dunno what it says.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=173999&page=32
Post 794, this guy can only run at stock speed now.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=154898&page=141
post 3512 talks about 2 that died.

I'll keep my eye open for the thread that alerted me to the problem, soz I cant find it.
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Well that sucks... kind of scared about buying an E8400 now
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Wow, this dedragation thing is starting to build some validity. I did a lot of searching and reading and found the same as the info in the above links. It looks like mostly hardcore overclockers are affected, and that's the current OC favorite.

So it shouldn't take much longer to see some proof and how intel responds.

Here's my prediction:

INTEL: We have seen no evidence to reflect that our processor series x8xxx have any signs of dedragation whatsoever, or any processor line for that matter.

CUSTOMER: But my Q6600 doesn't do it, nor does my 6750, or my old pentium D, and I OC'd the hellsorz out of them too, why only the x8xxx series???? wtfsaucesorz???

INTEL: Please see our first response, thank you.
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hmm, well I had my E8400 orthos stable last week 4127Mhz at 1.42v, and all of the sudden became unstable.

Now I'm at 3986Mhz at 1.34v, and back stable again. I sure hope I didn't "degrade" the chip. If I do, I'll just RMA it with newegg.

But makes ya wonder... :eek:
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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=154898&page=141
post 3512 talks about 2 that died.

I'll keep my eye open for the thread that alerted me to the problem, soz I cant find it.

He mentions the batches, and I happen to have one the same batches, Q745A. I am definitely not going to touch 1.4v anytime soon now. Just makes me glad I didn't try for a max overclock yet.
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Intel lists 1.3625V as the max safe voltage for these chips, so it's no surprise people are seeing some frying action at 1.4V and higher.
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;1032019362']Intel lists 1.3625V as the max safe voltage for these chips, so it's no surprise people are seeing some frying action at 1.4V and higher.

For me it is hard to determine what voltage I'm actually at. CPUZ, Speedfan, and CPUID HW Monitor all say my CPU Core voltage is 1.25v, but in BIOS I've set it to 1.318. If this is the case, I still have a ways to go before 1.3625. But if we're going by the BIOS setting, I'm nearly at my max with extremely low temps. It seems other people have quite a large vdrop/droop with the DS3L though. It was the same with my E4400, I had approximately .06v decrease from BIOS to software reading. Maybe it's time to borrow a voltmeter and check for myself.
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;1032019362']Intel lists 1.3625V as the max safe voltage for these chips, so it's no surprise people are seeing some frying action at 1.4V and higher.

Interesting, can you tell us where you saw that?
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According to the Intel website, VID voltage range for the E8400 is 0.85v - 1.3625v.

Keep in mindd that this is the VID range, and not necessarily the max safe voltage. If I limited my OCs to the VID on my Q6600, I'd never have gotten past 3.2 GHz.
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According to the Intel website, VID voltage range for the E8400 is 0.85v - 1.3625v.

Keep in mindd that this is the VID range, and not necessarily the max safe voltage. If I limited my OCs to the VID on my Q6600, I'd never have gotten past 3.2 GHz.

Actually Im under my VID for my chip which is 1.5 to get my 3.3 OC. I wouldnt want to go higher than that. I think its a good reference to stick to.
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mine's run 1.36v in bios on stock hsf @ 446fsb/4005mhz since about jan 20... no issues whatsoever, 11.4 second 1M PI
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Damn it. I was just getting ready to buy one. Now with degradation problem I do not know if I should take the chance. I was just thinking if this problem is real what about the other 45nm CPU that are getting ready to come out . Will they have the same problem. I was also thinking of buying a 9450, If it has this problem too, and with the low multiplier you will not be able to overclock it worth a damn.
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Will these things do 9x400 on stock voltage?
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Will these things do 9x400 on stock voltage?

Mine did, but it needed a bump to get to 445
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I just picked up an E8400 from a local Microcenter (it's still $189)
Installed it and o/ced to 4005mhz right away (9x445) on P5E. First strange thing I noticed was that the idle temperature is quite higher than others reported. Mine hovers around 45C:eek:, and the max load temperature running OCCP for 2 hours was 67C.
I tried lowering the voltage and 1.31V (actual) is the lowest to sustain 4005mhz without errors on OCCP, and it still reached upto 67C. I also reseated the HSF couple of times which didn't change anything. What else can I try? Can this be a reason for an exchange?
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I just picked up an E8400 from a local Microcenter (it's still $189)
Installed it and o/ced to 4005mhz right away (9x445) on P5E. First strange thing I noticed was that the idle temperature is quite higher than others reported. Mine hovers around 45C:eek:, and the max load temperature running OCCP for 2 hours was 67C.
I tried lowering the voltage and 1.31V (actual) is the lowest to sustain 4005mhz without errors on OCCP, and it still reached upto 67C. I also reseated the HSF couple of times which didn't change anything. What else can I try? Can this be a reason for an exchange?

I can't imagine a store exchanging a CPU for running hot at well above the stock setting...
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I can't imagine a store exchanging a CPU for running hot at well above the stock setting...

I forgot to mention that the cpu idles abvoe 40C at default setting.;)
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I can't imagine a store exchanging a CPU for running hot at well above the stock setting...

The CPU not reporting correct temperatures even at stock, would validate a replacement.
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I forgot to mention that the cpu idles abvoe 40C at default setting.;)

Ehh, mine idles at 50C. I'm convinced it is an error - no way is it idling at 50+C with a Ultra-120 at stock voltage/speed. I'm going to wait and see if a new BIOS or something comes out to fix the issue. Or maybe I just got a lemon that has bad contact between the cores and the IHS or something. Either way, I lapped it, so I'm stuck with it.

The CPU not reporting correct temperatures even at stock, would validate a replacement.

Problem is, how do you show that it is not correct? If the store wanted to be jerks about it, I can see them denying that reason.
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I just picked up an E8400 from a local Microcenter (it's still $189)
Installed it and o/ced to 4005mhz right away (9x445) on P5E. First strange thing I noticed was that the idle temperature is quite higher than others reported. Mine hovers around 45C:eek:, and the max load temperature running OCCP for 2 hours was 67C.
I tried lowering the voltage and 1.31V (actual) is the lowest to sustain 4005mhz without errors on OCCP, and it still reached upto 67C. I also reseated the HSF couple of times which didn't change anything. What else can I try? Can this be a reason for an exchange?

Thats similar to what I'm getting at 3.9Ghz with 1.3875v (in BIOS) and 1.28v in windows. I could probably hit 4Ghz if I gave it more volts, but I want to stay on the safe side until there's some more long term testing with this chip. Wolfdales/45nm chips might have something similar to the SNDS (Sudden Northwood Death Syndrome) . As there have been a few reports of losing stability at high clocks after extreme voltage.

45-46C idle
65-66C Orthos 100% load
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ya Chris, that's exactly where I am at, same OC and temps as you. I just hope it stays stable there, and doesn't "degrade over time".
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The CPU not reporting correct temperatures even at stock, would validate a replacement.

May wanna read Intel's Limited Warranty statement. Along with any "Errata", which I believe includes Intel stating they dont guarantee temperature readings; which is complete BS.
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I'm planning to overhaul my old athlon xp computer. Will DDR3 and e8400 give me any noticeable better overclocks (4ghz + )?
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I'm planning to overhaul my old athlon xp computer. Will DDR3 and e8400 give me any noticeable better overclocks (4ghz + )?

No, DDR-2 is just as effective, it will need to run at a minimum of 900MHz to get 4GHz. (edit:assuming you are using an X38 or X48 motherboard)
We dont yet know the true safe voltage limit for these chips so to get the best performance you will need to cool it as much as possible as well as raise the voltage within sensible levels.

I'm sticking with 4GHz at 1.35V until its clear we arent causing any damage.
Its bloody quick at this speed anyway, easily enough to max my 8800GT.
In case it helps, I benchmarked Crysis, 3DM05 and 3DM06 using a single stick of ram in single channel mode vs 2 sticks in dual channel mode.
the results were identical.
No doubt this is partially due to the 8800GT already screaming at its max so there may be benefit from DDR3 when a faster graphics card comes out or if you do lots of memory intensive work not involving 3D.
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I have been runnin 8X500 24/7 for about a week. I did a few suicide runs a 4.7 on air. I am still tweekin the mem.

DFI UT P35
Temps. 24c on 1 core and 31c on the other..This is starting to bug me
CpuV = 1.3
Ram = 5.4.4.10
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=154898&page=136

I used this template to get me started and it seems to be stable. I am using the beta bios
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Can someone explain to me about VID?

1) How does VID correspond to OC--is the higher the better or the other way around?

2) Is there a way to check VID on the retail box?

3) What's the best way to look for best OCers in the 8400? batch number? week number? or VID?
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Can someone explain to me about VID?

1) How does VID correspond to OC--is the higher the better or the other way around?

2) Is there a way to check VID on the retail box?

3) What's the best way to look for best OCers in the 8400? batch number? week number? or VID?


1) it does guranatee overclocking better, but it require less vcore to run default speed if it is lowest.

2) No

3) Results may vary, some people having different result even if same batch.
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Excellent, thank you Nenu.
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I'm on a gigabyte p35-ds3l bios 8.a, and I'm running at 3.6. It's reporting that my load temp is 56c when my heat sink (scythe ninja) isn't even warm to the touch. One core is 31/51 idle/load and the other is 38/56 (22c ambient).

I don't really feel comfortable going any higher without having an idea what the temps actually are. I'm sure that I could hit 4ghz but I'm not sure that it's worth the risk.

Would inaccurate temperature readings be a good enough reason for an exchange at microcenter?
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I'm on a gigabyte p35-ds3l bios 8.a, and I'm running at 3.6. It's reporting that my load temp is 56c when my heat sink (scythe ninja) isn't even warm to the touch. One core is 31/51 idle/load and the other is 38/56 (22c ambient).

I don't really feel comfortable going any higher without having an idea what the temps actually are. I'm sure that I could hit 4ghz but I'm not sure that it's worth the risk.

Would inaccurate temperature readings be a good enough reason for an exchange at microcenter?


I have read 2 reports supposedly from Intel saying the max temps you should get to are 61C and 72C (or was it 62C and 71C?).
Regardless you are way below them both so you can push a little more if you dont take VCore too far.

This does assume that you can trust the temperature readings which is where I would be wary for now.
It seems that all or most non X38/X48 motherboards make a royal mess of reading the temps from the 45nM CPUs.
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http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y105/basskozz/Everyday_Rig/OC2/th_Screenshot69.jpg (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y105/basskozz/Everyday_Rig/OC2/Screenshot69.jpg)
CoreTemp (http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/) and CPUID HW Monitor (http://www.cpuid.com/hwmonitor.php) are both showing: 57/61
Speedfan (http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php) 4.34 beta 38 is showing: 53/57

so which is it?
I'd be much more comfortable with Speedfan's temps, my goal is to overclock the E8400 to a place where it's load temps won't exceed 55c, and if Speedfan's temps are correct I can live with 57c ;)

p.s. my Vcore is set @ 1.2725v
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From what I came across on my travels, Intel recommend only using the software that came with your motherboard to monitor temps and they dont guarantee the temperatures anyway!
It seems that X38 and X48 boards do read the sensors sensibly.

There may have been BIOS updates for P35 etc boards to remedy the situation.
I havent yet seen anyone claiming there is a fix yet so it doesnt look likely.
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My 8400 caused disconnect issues with online games , I reinstalled my 6850 and problems went away. needless to say I did RMA the 8400 my idle temps with no OC was 47c and load over 73c, this was the first intel cpu that I ever had to RMA and I have been buying them for years im 58 years old so there have been a few :D
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Wow, you guys really volt the hell out of your CPUs!

Unfortunately my freezone TEC won't be back until Monday, so until then I have to rely on a stock HSF. Even with that, though, I can run 500*8 at 1.25v, 44 idle, 65 at load. Considering the "errata" being reported, I'm going to try to keep my core volts as low as possible.
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My 8400 caused disconnect issues with online games , I reinstalled my 6850 and problems went away. needless to say I did RMA the 8400 my idle temps with no OC was 47c and load over 73c, this was the first intel cpu that I ever had to RMA and I have been buying them for years im 58 years old so there have been a few :D

Have you tried to go back on the default clocks to see if it still does that?
Seems to me it's instability issue related to overclocking and not a degradation issue.
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I am going to take a chance and buy a 8400. Where is everybody buying your chips at . I usually buy from New Egg but not this time. The price of a 8400 was $229.00. I look at it this morning and it was up to $239.00,went to lunch came back now it $244.99. New Egg can kiss my ASS! Hopefuly I can find it somewhere else.
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I am going to take a chance and buy a 8400. Where is everybody buying your chips at . I usually buy from New Egg but not this time. The price of a 8400 was $229.00. I look at it this morning and it was up to $239.00,went to lunch came back now it $244.99. New Egg can kiss my ASS! Hopefuly I can find it somewhere else.

Microcenter had good prices for a while there. Not sure about now though.
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Asus Maximus Formula X38
E8400 @ 9x445 (1.375V bios ~ 1.3 load)
(4005) ~25-30 idle ~48-53 Load (Tuniq Tower / Antec Solo with 1x120 Tri-Cool)

Crucial Ballistix 6400 @ 1:1 (890 / 4-4-4-12 @ 2.2v)
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Microcenter had good prices for a while there. Not sure about now though.

Yes, it's $189.99
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Asus Maximus Formula X38
E8400 @ 9x445 (1.375V bios ~ 1.3 load)
(4005) ~25-30 idle ~48-53 Load (Tuniq Tower / Antec Solo with 1x120 Tri-Cool)

Crucial Ballistix 6400 @ 1:1 (890 / 4-4-4-12 @ 2.2v)

I have everywhere one core 42 an the other 45, so i don't get heat info... i haven't overclocked yet. Strange no heat info.
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Yes, it's $189.99

Wow still? I thought that was just for that week or something.
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Wow still? I thought that was just for that week or something.

I just picked mine up this past Saturday and they were still selling it for $189.
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Microcenter had good prices for a while there. Not sure about now though.

I just got mine from the MicroCenter in Fairfax VA.
They just got in a batch of 30. The sale ends on Sunday.
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I am running a

P5KE -wifi
8400 Wolfdale
2 x 1 gig of G.Skill 6400 HZ and so should you!!
Foxconn 8800GTX
PC&P 750watt psu
This machine is Air-Cooled pumping colder air in from outside with a 4 inch squirrel cage fan and dryer hose blowing it on on lower portion of cpu cooler (Scythe) and Northbridge.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/piguy.jpg

I just love this little Wolf.......

WZ
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The closest Microcenter to me is 50 miles away. I have to drive thur Philly to get to it. ClubIt has it for 215.80 with free shipping. Anybody brought anything from ClubIt before and how did it go.
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The closest Microcenter to me is 50 miles away. I have to drive thur Philly to get to it. ClubIt has it for 215.80 with free shipping. Anybody brought anything from ClubIt before and how did it go.

I've bought a few things from ClubIt, no problems here.

I buy from whoever is cheapest of:
Newegg
Mwave
ClubIT
Zipzoomfly

Newegg does usually ship the fastest. But thats probably just b/c they're in CA, so when I place an order in the afternoon they have an extra 2 hours to process that order before the end of the day.
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Picked up my E8400 for $189($206 including Tax) at the Microcenter located @ Westbury, New York. They seem to have a lot of them in so if you live around that area go pick one up for yourself! Cheers.
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Argh.. this low availability is leading to big time price gouging - I wonder when we'll see wide availability.
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Picked up my E8400 for $189($206 including Tax) at the Microcenter located @ Westbury, New York. They seem to have a lot of them in so if you live around that area go pick one up for yourself! Cheers.
I live in the southren part of New Jersey, to far to drive. Thank anyway.
Anybody else ever deal with ClubIT.
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I live in the southren part of New Jersey, to far to drive. Thank anyway.
Anybody else ever deal with ClubIT.
You can stop asking about ClubIT. The rock: on par with the 'Egg. Only down side is that they don't lower shipping when you buy more than one item in an order (e.g. if a mobo ships for $7 and your vid card for $8, you pay $15, whereas with the 'Egg, they'll prob. lower it to $12 or something)
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I live in the southren part of New Jersey, to far to drive. Thank anyway.
Anybody else ever deal with ClubIT.

ClubiIT is good. Like some one else said there shipping is not quite as fast as newegg, but they are a solid on line retailer. I bought my DS3 from clubit last year cause they guaranteed rev 3.3 back when no one else would. I would buy from them again.
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Some more info on the degrading of overclocks:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2762925&postcount=1246

The main indicators seem to be higher FSB (over 550) and Vcore higher than 1.4V although there are exceptions.
Those are the only emerging patterns so far.


This could of course all be a load of rubbish as the number of failures reported is not that high and other problems could contribute,
ie
As a new chip there may be a design flaw that affects a few chips badly
Motherboard and/or voltage problems
Noise on PSU adding to thermal envelope
Unnoticed human error
Noticed but not reported human error ;)
etc...

Like:
When I first powered up my chip, I immediately set the voltage to manual and went to the very first setting which is 2.35V.
It didnt dawn on me that it was over 2V, I saw it as 1.35V.
Subsequently it didnt boot and the motherboard complained heavily!
Luckily it appears there was no damage (the motherboard prevented any) but mistakes are easy to make so be careful with these chips.
Dont work on your overclock when tired (my excuse ;)).
If I had a motherboard that wasnt as quick to act, my chip could have died.
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Hi WeldZilla, what voltage did you use to get to 4.7ghz. I just put in my e8400 yesterday doing 4.0ghz at 1.3 volts on my evga 680i AR w/ bios 32 (this is orthos stable). I went to 4.2ghz at a tad over 1.4volts and about 30 min orthos stables. I was able to get to 4.5ghz at 500fsb at 1.48volts but only orthos for 10 min bc I am not too sure about the temps being recorded correctly so I want to stay under 1.4 volts for now. I am using a tuniq air cooler. I havent tried anything over 4.5ghz but wanted to know what volts you were using. My packaging date for my cpu is 1/11/08.
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The price on the e8400 at newegg seems to change a couple times a day. From yesterday to today, it went from 244.99 to 229.99 and now it's 239.99. All this time, it hasn't been in stock. Kinda weird to keep changing the price of something they don't have. Wonder how they figure that out....
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The price on the e8400 at newegg seems to change a couple times a day. From yesterday to today, it went from 244.99 to 229.99 and now it's 239.99. All this time, it hasn't been in stock. Kinda weird to keep changing the price of something they don't have. Wonder how they figure that out....

Real-time based on page views. Stop refreshing, for the love of God. :D
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Real-time based on page views. Stop refreshing, for the love of God. :D


That's what I was thinking. They figure if you LOOK at it, then you must want it, and the more people that look, the more people that want it. Even though they supply is ZERO, if the demand continues, the prices go up.

Weird about how online retailers handle things like this.

I mean when I go to wal-mart to buy something, the price stays the same no matter how many people want it. I guess it depends on the type of item. The Wii, for example. Online retailers sold it for the stock price no matter how many people wanted it.

While Microsoft suggested an e8400 intro price of something like 180 bux, online retailers sell it for what they think they can sell it for and for a HUGE profit. As long as people are buying it for that price, it won't come down any time soon.

The e8400s would be a GREAT deal it they were actually selling for what they're worth according to microsoft.
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So I'll be joining the E8400 club here in a couple days. I'm pretty excited. After my Antec Neo HE fried my Mobo, CPU and Ram, I got Intel to RMA my dead e6400. For the life of me I can't overclock this thing past 2.66GHz. I can't wait to get my new e8400!
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Real-time based on page views. Stop refreshing, for the love of God. :D

lol you can have some fun with that.
Write a batch file that connects to the page every few seconds, put it on a load of machines at work.
When the price gets really high, make a post on a few forums showing they are charging an exorbitant amount and put a link too.
Watch the price hit new highs :D
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Why is there such a shortage of 8400s? Is it selling that well? Reminds me of 8800GTs. I don't even look at MSRPs of future products. They're worthless. Places will charge whatever they can sell them for.
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i ordered a e8400 system from cyberpower on 1/28, just got off phone with them and it they said intel will not be shipping anymore e8400 untill APRIL! guess my 1500 dollar order wasnt worth filling before they ran out of what they had:mad:
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i ordered a e8400 system from cyberpower on 1/28, just got off phone with them and it they said intel will not be shipping anymore e8400 untill APRIL! guess my 1500 dollar order wasnt worth filling before they ran out of what they had:mad:

that better be a lie :-/
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i ordered a e8400 system from cyberpower on 1/28, just got off phone with them and it they said intel will not be shipping anymore e8400 untill APRIL! guess my 1500 dollar order wasnt worth filling before they ran out of what they had:mad:

You'd think something like that would be all over the hardware sites by now. Hard to keep that a secret, and not really like Intel to try.
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While Microsoft suggested an e8400 intro price of something like 180 bux, online retailers sell it for what they think they can sell it for and for a HUGE profit. As long as people are buying it for that price, it won't come down any time soon.

The e8400s would be a GREAT deal it they were actually selling for what they're worth according to microsoft.

Bill Gates is designing CPUs? :eek: I'm going to keep looking out my window for signs of the four horsemen.

I'm worrying Intel is going to make an announcement that would be something like all the E8400s available at launch have a fatal flaw and are going to burn..............a hole in my pocket. :mad:

Intel "All end users have violated the limited warranty by running voltage through the affected CPUs, please purchase a new CPU from one of our approved vendors"

Could this be a prelude to Intel having something like the Phenom defect?
I wonder.............
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It feels like the problem is along the lines of...

The CPUs are so good that where they would normally become unstable and force you to back off on the overclock/voltage, these dont become unstable until much later meaning you really can push them too far too easily.

There will always be a certain number of failures anyway so we are also seeing those mixed in with the results of the very high speed burnt CPUs which makes it look like the problem happens when we dont push the CPUs hard as well.

Hopefully this is true and there is no errata problem.
Intel can fix it by making the chips unstable earlier :D
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Oh great, now Im not sure if i made a total mistake getting the 8400.... I can still return it, but is this something to really be concerned about? Anyone know if the P35s will be updated to work better with these chips? And from the looks of things, as long as you stay below 1.4v, you shouldnt run into any problems, right?
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Oh great, now Im not sure if i made a total mistake getting the 8400.... I can still return it, but is this something to really be concerned about? Anyone know if the P35s will be updated to work better with these chips? And from the looks of things, as long as you stay below 1.4v, you shouldnt run into any problems, right?

naaaa
nothing to worry about, clock it to 4GHz with the minimum voltage it needs and watch this space. I'd try to stick around 1.35V but thats just me :)
At 4GHz, you'll have way more power than you will need for gaming and you can tweak it more later if it turns out to be ok to do so.
Its an awesome CPU.
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4 GHz is a simple OC with the E8400... Even if you only went to 4 GHz, you're still getting a hell of a deal.

If you're really concerned about degradation you can still get a decent OC and keep it within the "safe" max 1.365v. Overclocking takes time and testing, but I'm really amazed at what this chip can do... Orthos stable at 4 GHz on 1.264v is simply amazing.
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I wonder if anyone can help me,

I'm trying to find out the weight of the E8400 Retail Stock heatsink and fan. Anybody know this?

I'd like to throw on a Freezer Pro but if the stock cooler is 200grams then id take the weight advantage and stay with that. If it's half a kilo though i meas well get the Freezer init :)
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240g approx
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i ordered a e8400 system from cyberpower on 1/28, just got off phone with them and it they said intel will not be shipping anymore e8400 untill APRIL! guess my 1500 dollar order wasnt worth filling before they ran out of what they had:mad:

LOL, that's your first mistake right there. Good luck getting it before the end of summer. You should've researched Cyberpower/IBuyPower before you made the grave mistake of ordering from them. Trust me, from personal experience, it is not worth dealing with them. You should just cancel your order. They have the worst, most pathetic customer service I've ever had the displeasure of dealing with. They will literally make up stories and lies to keep you from getting your system on time (kinda like this no E8400 until April bullshit lmfao).

Trust me dude, just cancel your order. Order the parts and build it yourself or take it to Microcenter to get built if you can't do it yourself. You will thank me later.
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240g approx

Ah cool, that's great thanks.

The other thing is...I've read that the E8400 can be successfully overclocked to 3.6GHz using the stock cooler. I plan on doing this.

Would anyone strictly advise against doing this ? Would it be bad for the chip in the long/short term etc?

Thankyou

:)
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If I only had the stock cooler I'd go a bit higher if possible.
Stick around 1.35V max and you should have no problem.

Theres not a lot of point trying to give you safe temps as the readings you get are likely to be as useful as random numbers.
With 1.35V you arent going to push temperature boundaries anyway unless its really hot ambient or your case has bad airflow.
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So you're saying overclock it more? :eek:

What frequency would i be getting @ 1.35v ?
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So you're saying overclock it more? :eek:

What frequency would i be getting @ 1.35v ?

Only you will be able to find out.
You might not even get 3.6GHz but others have achieved 3.6 on stock volts so it shouldnt be hard.
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Overclock results can vary... A LOT.

Some people have a hard time getting part 3.6 GHz, while others can push their prrocessors to 4.5 GHz +.

I love my E8400 either way. 3.6 GHz @ 1.120v (actual) with NB, SB, and memory voltages ALL AT THE LOWEST POSSIBLE BIOS SETTINGS. 4.2 GHz @ 1.265v. 4.4 GHz @ 1.325v. (Q745A)
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Overclock results can vary... A LOT.

Some people have a hard time getting part 3.6 GHz, while others can push their prrocessors to 4.5 GHz +.

I love my E8400 either way. 3.6 GHz @ 1.120v (actual) with NB, SB, and memory voltages ALL AT THE LOWEST POSSIBLE BIOS SETTINGS. 4.2 GHz @ 1.265v. 4.4 GHz @ 1.325v. (Q745A)
Wow! Those are great overclocks man!

I can get 4.0GHz (8x500) at 1.29v

Are those stable? Man, if those are stable you got yourself a gem of a chip there.
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I don't believe everything thats written down.
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http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h153/Hewligan/OCpic.jpg

Only raised FSB just to see what she'd do. Idle temps are around 42-45. Using a Scyth Mine for cooling.
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Have had my E8400 for a couple weeks. I just bumped the FSB to 400 with the OEM fan/heatsink and my Gigabyte mobo is stock right out of the box. I'm happy with 3.6GHz and the 1600MHz FSB that the Extreme Editons have. :cool:
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i sold mine the other day, have had it sitting here for a month and still no updated bios from abit. got tired of waiting so i said ^&$# it and sold mine. cant believe it takes so damn long to come up with a new bios. what a bunch of bullshit!
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i sold mine the other day, have had it sitting here for a month and still no updated bios from abit. got tired of waiting so i said ^&$# it and sold mine. cant believe it takes so damn long to come up with a new bios. what a bunch of bullshit!

did not having the BIOS stop you from using it?
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