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My current motherboard / CPU combo is, AMD 64 X2 5200+ Windsor socket AM2 Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe, Nvidia NForce 570 Is there a better CPU running on the AM2 socket then my current one? Something with more balls behind it? If not how easy is it to Overclock my CPU? Thank you! ============= There will be three faster models coming out soon, but for now yours is the best. Overclocking is easy, you only need to change a few settings in the BIOS for a simple OC. ============= There will be three faster models coming out soon, but for now yours is the best. Overclocking is easy, you only need to change a few settings in the BIOS for a simple OC. That is simply not the case. FX-62 $400 2.8Ghz. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103861 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103860 X2 6000+ 3ghz Hard to find ATM $500. Somebody got 3.5ghz on it. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=132306 http://www.directron.com/adx6000czbox.html http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103771 These are the fastest cpu's ever built for AM2 and are so cheap its not even funny compared to the alternitive X6800 conroe at $999 what a ripoff, they should sell it at $400 with AMD to stay compeditive. Its a flagship processor over priced as far as I see Intel's path. ============= Thanks for the information, I like my X2 just was curious if there was somthing with more kick. Do you know past the 6000 if they are thinking of pushing more faster CPU's out for my socket type in the future? And I completely agree, I couldn't believe the price difference of the Intel chips. ============= Overclock the one you already have... :rolleyes: Why spend more money on a cpu, if you got some cash to spare put it into a video card, it will make a much bigger impact. ============= Overclock the one you already have... :rolleyes: Why spend more money on a cpu, if you got some cash to spare put it into a video card, it will make a much bigger impact. I have an 8800GTX already, can't really afford a second one to run SLI. But I see your point, never overclocked a CPU in my life however. And I don't know how far I can push my CPU and what the Voltage settings need to be, if the factory fan will keep it cool enough, or if my PSU is about as stretched as it can be. (500watt) I dunno how much difference an overclocked CPU taxes your PSU anyhow? ============= wait a minute there pimptight there is a reason the intel core 2's are more expensive than their amd x2 counter parts they perform better - straight up and down, so they cost more gaming, archiving, editing, synthetic tests, etc and its not just one source check extremetech - tomshardware - anandtech - right here on hardocp lbs for lbs the core 2's out perform the x2's so that is why they cost more now as far as the OP goes - if you have the x2 5200+ you are good, don't worry about adding balls cause you'd only be adding them on paper as in synthetic tests and bragging rights make sure your hdd is fast - your mem is up and your vidcard is right and you'll be good im assuming you're gaming - the x2 you have isnt going to hit a roadblock unless you are driving a 30" gaming display running at crazy resolutions [above 1920x1080] i know because i run that same x2 - with a 74raptor - 4gb of geil - x800xl pcie and i game at 1680x1050 with all the goodies on in halflife2 doom3 prey fear oblivion etc the only game that gives me grief is oblivion and that's when i try to get silly with the grass and trees and etc basically im going to need an 8800 to get down like that - but im not upgrading my vid card until i have to - that is when the dx10 games come out or the 8800s come down from their $300+ high horse so keep your x2 and make sure the supporting cast are pulling their weight ============= people say that the x6800 perform like a 7ghz cpu. ============= JammHamm thanks for the reply, makes me feel like my 5200+ will be ok for awhile. Although you brought up one concern, Im running at the native resolution of 1920 x 1080 on a HD 37" widescreen. Are you saying that the CPU won't have enough power to keep up? Here are my system specs, AMD 64 X2 5200+ Windsor socket AM2 Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe, Nvidia NForce 570 EVGA GeForce 8800GTX 768mb GDDR3 Super Overclocked HDCP OCZ Platinum Rev 2 (4x1Gb) 240 Pin DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) 4-4-4-15 timing Thermaltake TR2 500watt PSU V 2.0 HD1 : WD Raptor 150GB 10k RPM 16mb Cache ATA 150 HD2 : Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB SATA (perpendicular Recording) Creative Sound Blaster X-fi Onboard NIC Logitech G5 Microsoft Natural Elite 37" Westinghouse HD Monitor ============= pics? ============= Of what my Westinghouse? Eh, they are already posted in the Monitor forum. Under that huge Westinghouse thread. :) Which I posted at home, so I can't shove em back on, just search via my name and you can see it. I didn't have the best pictures of it like some of the other users, my camera sucks. ============= no. pic from your workstation. ============= It should be on there somewhere, sorry if I dissapointed you. There are many others if you want to know what it looked like??? ============= That is simply not the case. FX-62 $400 2.8Ghz. X2 6000+ 3ghz Hard to find ATM $500. Somebody got 3.5ghz on it. With the FX-62 he'd be paying $200 for and additional 200MHz. Not exactly cost effective. On the 6000+ it would be $270 for 400MHz. A little better, but not much. wait a minute there pimptight This made me lol. I couldn't have put it better myself. people say that the x6800 perform like a 7ghz cpu. This statement is completely meaningless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To the OP: You would be far better served to find out how much overclocking headroom you have on your still-very-fast 5200+. This (http://eclipseoc.com/index.php?id=6) is a good place to learn the basics. ============= exactly - it's not worth that much money to bump a few scores there are two reasons to upgrade.... 1 because you need to 2 because you need to any other reason and you are just wasting money... sure that new watercooled stuff is cool - but do you need it? so to the OP [taipans] - i dont see a bottleneck in your setup in fact all that extra memory is going to work wonders for keeping your pathways open with those goodies you're flying - all you need to do is make sure everyone is playing fair as in your mem and cpu talking at the same speeds and keeping everything cool i take it you are running xp - cause vista doesnt like those 8800's yet [nothing driverwise from nvid] dude, you're good - plug it all up, keep it cool and enjoy ============= Thanks for the information, I like my X2 just was curious if there was somthing with more kick. Do you know past the 6000 if they are thinking of pushing more faster CPU's out for my socket type in the future? And I completely agree, I couldn't believe the price difference of the Intel chips. K10 will be out in 5 to 7 months. AMD clams a 40% faster chip at the same clock speed. And to the other guys. 10% faster in 32-bit and almost 0% in 64-bit 5+ more FPS in games 30 secs faster in encoding agenst a AMD doesn't equal cost effective when the bloody chips cost almost $100 more per 250mhz-300mhz advantage over AMD on 32-bit and almost none at all on 64-bit look at my benchmarks. :rolleyes: fan bots for ya. Don't listen to them. Save your money for a AMD system. Its in the real world you won't tell the difference. AMD is Faster in ALU witch is good for games, usoully load and feel faster despite C2D's 5+ FPS (advantage nothing a better GPU can't fix besides you'll save about $200 with a AMD mobo+cpu and you can get a better Video card for that.) C2D is faster in FPU is encoding. Unless you think 10% is critical and going to really make a difference, coming from the mouth who actouly has both systems. Your better off with "THE SMARTER CHOICE" :D You go for C2D if your a pimpdaddy and think every benchmark must be "1 point" higher to think its SOOO MUCH BETTER then AMD when its not. What are you going to do with that 5 or 50point higher score? Its not a quantum computer. Most of the time its hardly a difference. You go AMD because its cheaper and smarter. You go C2D if your some insane OCer that will never use all that speed in the real world, only for the showoff. FSB limit. Your processor can only run as fast as its FSB. No use in a faster processor when theres a FSB only running half the speed of your cpu. :rolleyes: Also because programs are limited. If your budget AMD is perfect, if you want the best and can't have anything less you go C2D even if there is no advantage aside from the benchmarks C2D was made for. You'll never notice it in the real world and just be wasting money like the mistake I made. People who buy C2D are Intel fans, people who buy both are in no fandom at all, or ppl who buy one or the other are just miss-lead by the crowd because of the over hype. :( Don't beleave what you see. Its only because of C2D's insane cache it has any advantage at all. For some reason in 64-bit you can see how fast C2D really is. So sad, All I use are 64-bit OS's and that was a big loss to me. I don't care how C2D performs, its only a mask for the truth, in the real world it doesn't make a bit of difference. :mad: ============= You go AMD because its cheaper and smarter. You go C2D if your some insane OCer that will never use all that speed in the real world, only for the showoff. Whatnow? My C2D, Motherboard and RAM cost me just over 600$ USD... And I can beat any AMD processor clocked upwards of 4ghz... Upgrading to the C2D was the sanest thing I've ever done... Rendering, emulating and compiling are so much faster compared to my old X2 (2.66ghz). ============= K10 will be out in 5 to 7 months. AMD clams a 40% faster chip at the same clock speed. And to the other guys. 10% faster in 32-bit and almost 0% in 64-bit 5+ more FPS in games 30 secs faster in encoding agenst a AMD doesn't equal cost effective when the bloody chips cost almost $100 more per 250mhz-300mhz advantage over AMD on 32-bit and almost none at all on 64-bit look at my benchmarks. :rolleyes: fan bots for ya. Don't listen to them. Save your money for a AMD system. Its in the real world you won't tell the difference. AMD is Faster in ALU witch is good for games, usoully load and feel faster despite C2D's 5+ FPS (advantage nothing a better GPU can't fix besides you'll save about $200 with a AMD mobo+cpu and you can get a better Video card for that.) C2D is faster in FPU is encoding. Unless you think 10% is critical and going to really make a difference, coming from the mouth who actouly has both systems. Your better off with "THE SMARTER CHOICE" :D You go for C2D if your a pimpdaddy and think every benchmark must be "1 point" higher to think its SOOO MUCH BETTER then AMD when its not. What are you going to do with that 5 or 50point higher score? Its not a quantum computer. Most of the time its hardly a difference. You go AMD because its cheaper and smarter. You go C2D if your some insane OCer that will never use all that speed in the real world, only for the showoff. FSB limit. Your processor can only run as fast as its FSB. No use in a faster processor when theres a FSB only running half the speed of your cpu. :rolleyes: Also because programs are limited. If your budget AMD is perfect, if you want the best and can't have anything less you go C2D even if there is no advantage aside from the benchmarks C2D was made for. You'll never notice it in the real world and just be wasting money like the mistake I made. People who buy C2D are Intel fans, people who buy both are in no fandom at all, or ppl who buy one or the other are just miss-lead by the crowd because of the over hype. :( Don't beleave what you see. Its only because of C2D's insane cache it has any advantage at all. For some reason in 64-bit you can see how fast C2D really is. So sad, All I use are 64-bit OS's and that was a big loss to me. I don't care how C2D performs, its only a mask for the truth, in the real world it doesn't make a bit of difference. :mad: Honestly, dude, what are you on? Nobody told him to go with an Intel chip. I'm an admitted AMD fan. I've owned nothing but AMD chips since the days of the K6. But I'm not going to make things up because I don't like the truth and the truth is this: A Conroe chip (2MB or 4MB cache) at an easy-to-manage 3.0GHz overclock will smoke AMD's top chip by 18-25% in nearly every processor intensive task. That's the way it is. And believe me, you're going to notice when a Divx encode takes 45 minutes instead of an hour. Now that doesn't mean the OP needs to switch. His computer is still extremely fast and can easily be made faster with some basic overclocking. But please don't post crap like this in the forums. When you do you embarrass all of us and mislead people that come here looking for good advice. ============= Honestly, dude, what are you on? Nobody told him to go with an Intel chip. I'm an admitted AMD fan. I've owned nothing but AMD chips since the days of the K6. But I'm not going to make things up because I don't like the truth and the truth is this: A Conroe chip (2MB or 4MB cache) at an easy-to-manage 3.0GHz overclock will smoke AMD's top chip by 18-25% in nearly every processor intensive task. That's the way it is. And believe me, you're going to notice when a Divx encode takes 45 minutes instead of an hour. Now that doesn't mean the OP needs to switch. His computer is still extremely fast and can easily be made faster with some basic overclocking. But please don't post crap like this in the forums. When you do you embarrass all of us and mislead people that come here looking for good advice. QFT. ============= QFT. Quoted for quoting truthery. ============= vBulletin® v3.6.8, Copyright ©2000-2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. |