yeah I was driving today to school and I noticed the idle was really weird, but I was late so I coulndt stop to check what was wrong. Once I got to school I noticed that it was smoking white out of the exhaust, and then after my classes I went to turn on the car and it coulndt even stay on, really bad backfire, with constant white smoke out of the exhaust. Argh
I finally got it to run "fine" (i dont know how...) and got home, played a lil bit with it, took out the spark plugs since I got a CEL saying my third cylinder is not working. I took out the spark plug and theres liquid inside of the piston, under the spark plug. Argh

everyday a new problem with this car :(
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By liquid do u mean oil? If yes then youre gonna have to replace your valve cover gasket!!! Thats my view on this! Hope this helps
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By liquid do u mean oil? If yes then youre gonna have to replace your valve cover gasket!!! Thats my view on this! Hope this helps

Im not sure what kind of liquid it is yet, I had to go to work and didnt have time to keep checking for possible problems.
Its not the valve cover gasket, because there was no oil AT ALL on the spark plugs, till I took them out.
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sounds like its time for a new bottom end!
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white smoke usually happens when you burn oil... have u checked your oil levels? See if it looks like chocolate milk man, if it is, then you've probably blown your headgasket. If not i'd say you fried a ring on ur 3rd cylinder.... either case isnt fun... take that sucker in to the shop asap...
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I thought white was coolant, blue is oil?

Head gasket probably if theres "fluids" in the #3:(
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White smoke strongly suggests your head gasget is blown.
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I thought white was coolant, blue is oil?

Head gasket probably if theres "fluids" in the #3:(

lol ur probably right actually now that i think about it...
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lol ur probably right actually now that i think about it...

I remeber having my car sit for like a month before while it was getting worked on and it for some reason blew white smoke for a few days under WOT and cold start-ups. The people at Mazda said I was definatly burning coolant, you could see the levels in the overflow drop, and said nothing was blown though and it just kinda went away?

Definatly don't try to drive the car anymore, if it even runs, and get it looked at. Did you say you did have oil on the plugs after you pulled them out? Because that could be even worse of a problem:( Hope its something they can fix though because I know you haven't had that car too long man.

Is there any coolant left in the overflow?
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try getting it running and take off the radiator car, if theres lots of bubbles, its time for a headgasket. did it overheat or anyhting?
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If he got a CEL for the 3rd cylinder not working couldn't it just be unburned fuel on the piston? I would think that would cause some white smoke. Does it have a strong gas smell?
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If it's white smoke you probably blew the head gasket (it's sometimes hard to tell the color), your better off blowing this than a ring or piston. You may be able to get away with just replacing the head gasket and resurfacing the head. Good luck, hopefully it's just something easy.
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If he got a CEL for the 3rd cylinder not working couldn't it just be unburned fuel on the piston? I would think that would cause some white smoke. Does it have a strong gas smell?

yup, the gas smell is very strong. Its raining right now and I gotta go to school soon, but when I come back Ill take a deeper look to see if I can find whats wrong.
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unburned fuel would be black....very black...
water is white
oil is blue...


believe me...i know...
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unburned fuel would be black....very black...
water is white
oil is blue...


believe me...i know...

+1
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frickin rain, I just got back from school but I cant go outside and see whats wrong with it since its raining.
Alejo offered to help me later on to find whats damaged so thats a plus :-D
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wow danny that sucks man...you're not having the greatest luck with this car. I'm off for the rest of the day, call me up in you need a hand.
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I don't disagree about the possibility of the head gasket being blown, I was just hoping, for his sake, that it could be something a little more simple like a bad coil or wire.
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dont get me wrong...but i just don't see the conneciton between a CEL, BAD COIL and WATER in one cylinder...

if only it didn't have water, it might had been that....but the water is what gets everyone in the BHG direction(damn, i thought i could only use BHG when talking about MK3 supras)

I don't disagree about the possibility of the head gasket being blown, I was just hoping, for his sake, that it could be something a little more simple like a bad coil or wire.
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He didn't say it was water did he? I just thought he said "liquid"
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It's hard to tell what color the smoke is when you get nervous about blowing up as your driving. Some one make it clear up so they can check it out, is there a no rain dance or something?
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sorry, i got confused...

i spoke to him on the phone and he mentioned it was water or soemthing similar
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That's not a problem. I just hope he's able to get it figured out soon.
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update:
I returned the car back to stock, changed a few vacuum lines, cleaned the spark plugs. Car runs fine now :S even tho it did smoke white for a while, the idle was perfect and after taking it for a short ride, all the smoke was gone :S

I dont get it, argh.

When I was taking off the FMIC I noticed there was a lot of oil in between the Turbo and S pipe, and S pipe and Jpipe, BUT not in the hard pipes. This is confusing.

At least the car is running perfect right now, I really dont know whats going on. Could it have been the spark plug on the third cylinder? I did get a 303 CEL code, which was misfire on the third cylinder.
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wow danny that sucks man...you're not having the greatest luck with this car. I'm off for the rest of the day, call me up in you need a hand.

damn it, I didnt see that u posted this...I was about to call u but didnt wanna bother.
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update:
I returned the car back to stock, changed a few vacuum lines, cleaned the spark plugs. Car runs fine now :S even tho it did smoke white for a while, the idle was perfect and after taking it for a short ride, all the smoke was gone :S

I dont get it, argh.

When I was taking off the FMIC I noticed there was a lot of oil in between the Turbo and S pipe, and S pipe and Jpipe, BUT not in the hard pipes. This is confusing.

At least the car is running perfect right now, I really dont know whats going on. Could it have been the spark plug on the third cylinder? I did get a 303 CEL code, which was misfire on the third cylinder.

Oil in the exhaust can be bad, but you say it's gone now right? I was thinking blown seal in the turbo but it would be pretty bad and would be there most of the time like when your under load. I'd check the plugs again to see if they've gotten soaked again.
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Yeah, thats what I was thinking...even though it was too dark to tell at night, I think there is no oil/coolant on the exhaust anymore. I will drive it again today and then see what happens.

Im thinking it could have been also a vacuum line that went from the intake manifold to the fuel pressure sensor (it was kinda bent, maybe air wasnt going thru it right and causing bad readings).
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so, perhaps the liquid you saw was fuel puddeled in the piston..

it is very weird...
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so, perhaps the liquid you saw was fuel puddeled in the piston..

it is very weird...

might be also a bad spark plug along with that vacuum line. Who knows. Im just happy the car is back to normal...if it proceeds to run fine I guess Ill put all the parts back on during the weekend.

There was extra carbon built up on that third cylinder spark plug, but after cleaning them all a little the car ran fine.

btw, I was trying to take out the idle control valve out to clean it, but the screws were too tight. What kind of screw driver should I get for them? I stripped 1 of them a little bit, thats when I stopped trying.
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do it with a drill...

on a side note...you should try running SEA FOAM
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do it with a drill...

on a side note...you should try running SEA FOAM

DUDE! I would smoke white for hours lol.
I might try it tho, I could use a little bit on each car...Ive heard it works great.
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i';ve done it on half a dozen mazdaspeeds and even a camry...

everyone says it is awesome and yes..you'll smoke for a while..but not hours!

lol
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i';ve done it on half a dozen mazdaspeeds and even a camry...

everyone says it is awesome and yes..you'll smoke for a while..but not hours!

lol

best way is thru the brake booster line right?
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best way is thru the brake booster line right?

really, any vac line works...is just that the brake booster line sucks much more...
just do this...

warm the car to working temprature. thru any vac line allow the car to suck alot...maybe about half a bottle...
while keeping rpms high enough for the car not to stall...
then allow the car to stall and let it sit for a while..maybe 30 mins or something....then start the car again and hold the rpms high enough so the car won't stall.....alot of smoke will start to come out...after baout 1 minute or 2, the enigne should had gotten rid of it...

that's whn you just let go of the accelerator and let the car idle for a good 10-15 mnutes....

then, the rest of the sea foam, dump it on the gas tank to clean the injectors
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Don't go reinventing the wheel. Seafoam tells you to pour it in slowly and to use 1/3 of the can. A small funnel placed into the pcv hose makes it easier to pour it in with your left hand while working the throttle with your right hand. 5 minutes is long enough to complete the cleaning. Definitely put the rest in the tank for the injectors. After a few miles of driving, you will not smoke at all from the vacuum line treatment.
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u r absoluteky right, i just like to let it sit for a while when done the first time..so it eats the gum and all the carbon build up

but u r right, my bad...
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(werd) I did it the exact way as stated here over the weekend, easy to prevent from stalling and had no issues :DDon't go reinventing the wheel. Seafoam tells you to pour it in slowly and to use 1/3 of the can. A small funnel placed into the pcv hose makes it easier to pour it in with your left hand while working the throttle with your right hand. 5 minutes is long enough to complete the cleaning. Definitely put the rest in the tank for the injectors. After a few miles of driving, you will not smoke at all from the vacuum line treatment.
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i like sucking it thru a vac line.....

lol
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If I have the time I'll use a few different vac lines so it gets better distributed. I ask someone to crank it but not to let it run, it sucks it up and lets it puddle in the intake. Let it sit for a few minutes then get it to idle for a few minutes.
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I seafoamed the car today with a friend thru a vac line slowly...it smoked EVERYWHERE.
Even smoke came out of the exhaust/turbo manifold area :(
I dont know if its cracked yet, or if it came off the turbo/spipe/jpipe connections or where the EGR pipe used to be but it was a lot , then after a lil it stopped smoking from the engine side, and just the back. It took like 20 mins after that to clear up and stop smoking.
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it took 20 mins of driving or idling? cuz you're supposed to drive it to get it out of there....and smoke coming from the front definitely means you have a leak somewhere.
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I seafoamed the car today with a friend thru a vac line slowly...it smoked EVERYWHERE.
Even smoke came out of the exhaust/turbo manifold area :(
I dont know if its cracked yet, or if it came off the turbo/spipe/jpipe connections or where the EGR pipe used to be but it was a lot , then after a lil it stopped smoking from the engine side, and just the back. It took like 20 mins after that to clear up and stop smoking.

i forgot to tell you that
seafoam is very unforgiving when it comes to leaks...

it is the best way to know if you have a leak somewhere...
that, and regular oil in the cylinder will lso tell you about any exhaust leaks..
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it took 20 mins of driving or idling? cuz you're supposed to drive it to get it out of there....and smoke coming from the front definitely means you have a leak somewhere.

yeah I did drive it after like 10 mins idling. I felt like I was on vtec the whole time with those huge clouds of smoke behind me.

the smoking from the engine was weird, because it smoked instanly as it started sucking the seafoam, but then stopped after the cloud was released, even tho it kept smoking for an extra 20 mins on the exhaust.
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argh, problem is back. Its definitely something with the third cylinder.

I checked the injector, seems good.
spark plug cable, good.
put a set of 4 new spark plugs, NGK Irridiums.

Cant figure it out :(
It randomly starts smoking out of control, the backfires are always there, and you can feel the cylinder misfiring every now and then.

I guess its time to take it to the mechanic :( If I cant figure it out during the weekend Ill be there at 7AM on Monday.
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fuck mang...

is it really water? or is it gas?
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Have you done a compression test? If you can do a plug change you can do a comp. test. It should help you in figuring out what it is.
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fuck mang...

is it really water? or is it gas?


It smells strongly like gas, but then again, I dunno since its still white smoke. I just dont get how its gettin there, unless the coolant is going thru the turbo out the exhaust?


Have you done a compression test? If you can do a plug change you can do a comp. test. It should help you in figuring out what it is.

my friend lost the compressor tester I had so Im kinda stuck there :(
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What if you take out the water line on the turbo? That way you could see if it is that. You will have to give it plenty of time when you cool down though.
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I cant make a mess on the driveway so removing the water line is a big no lol, however, I did put on a different MAF to see if that was maybe the problem, but still no luck. The car did stop smoking, but the misfiring is still there.
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Aight well yesterday we made a lot of progress on the car.
Mechanic told me what the problem was, he said the third cylinder injector was shot, and it was continuously throwing gas making the car run too rich, thus the backfiring, misfiring, smoke. No wonder the car ran like shit on low RPMs, but still pulled nicely when floored, but I guess its better that I was running rich instead of lean. Anyway...Since I still had the 626 manifold on the car, the mechanic didnt wanna work on the car, since he did not think the warranty was gonna approve any of the labor/parts cause of it so I just picked it up and with a lotta help from friends got it finally running right again.

First I changed the coolant since the current one was already rusted red, followed by a Oil/Filter change with Mobil 1 extended performance (10w30). Then me and a friend installed the AWR Front end links Ive had for a while since I never got around to do it myself.

Then when Alejo came over he proceeded to remove the 626 manifold and put the stock one back on, took us a few hours but its finally running better now with the new injectors and the EGR back in. I still have to make sure they are the correct size so I dont cause anymore problems.


*cliff notes : problem was caused by a bad injector, throwing fuel nonstop. Replaced 2 injectors with 626 Injectors and seems to be working fine.
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Glad to hear you got the problem figured out and the cars running good again.
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So this whole time it was just a stuck injector. Well your real lucky.
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So this whole time it was just a stuck injector. Well your real lucky.

pretty much yeah, compression was 20 psi lower on that piston when it was checked by the mechanic tho, but he said that it was prolly cuz it was drowned in gas and once a the new injector went in, it should go back to normal.
hopefully it is back to same compression as before this incident.
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